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Today we are joined by #1 bestselling author of The 5 Love Languages, Gary Chapman, and his good friend, author, counselor, and diversity consultant, Clarence Shuler.
Many of us want to do something to improve race relations but don’t know where to start or even if we can make a difference. Cross-cultural friends for over fifty years, Gary and Clarence believe building friendships across racial and cultural lines will change lives and our country for the better forever. This belief inspired their new book, Life-Changing Cross-Cultural Friendships, to help others develop loving friendships that challenge their perspective and enrich their lives.
This episode covers some of their friendship, what inspired them to write this book, and practical steps for cross-cultural friendships.
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Music by Nath (feat. Steve Davis) “Let’s Save Hyrule Together


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Nicole Unice is a popular author and communicator who is passionate about facilitating environments of safety and vulnerability so that individuals and communities can courageously identify the obstacles keeping them from maximum potential.

Nicole lives in Richmond, VA with her husband, three children, and two dogs!

In her books, Nicole is passionate about making transformation attainable and accessible to people in all stages of life. As a coach, she brings clarity and courage for individuals and teams as they pursue a preferred future.  As a speaker, Nicole brings both wit and wisdom to the platform, with an honest and vulnerable approach that appeals to both faith and leadership environments alike.

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