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In light of the shooting of Ahmaud Arbery, we interrupt our normal schedule for a very special conversation with a good friend of mine, David Bailey. David is the founder of Arrabon, a ministry dedicated to training and discipleship around racial reconciliation. He’s a pastor, thought leader, and friend.

*At the time of this recording, no arrests had been made in the case*

In this conversation, we cover:

  • Why racism is still a real and active evil in America
  • How to enter into the conversation around race with humility and gentleness
  • Where to start as a white person in making progress toward healing in our country
  • Next steps and resources for further discussion

Here are the resources David recommends:


White Fragility: Why It’s So Hard for White People to Talk About Racism

The Myth of Equality

White Awake: An Honest Look at What It Means to be White

Dr. Martin Luther King: Letters from a Birmingham Jail

Dr. Martin Luther King: The Other America


Listen to last week’s episode: Unraveling the Victim Narrative

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